All this place wants is your money! Lifts are old and slow(16min ride), aftre waiting 45 minutes in line. 5 minute ride down hill. Horrible management and customer service. They will open just to get your money, even if weather doesnt allow. Look at there 11/12 season, there records show opening on Nov6 2011. Its Dec 6 2011 and guess what, they are closed. If they can blow snow one night they will open the next day on a liitle strip of snow they made. then close again. Like I say, all they want is money! I honestly don't know why they are still busy, i really don't.