Dude below: "north face un-skiable". you're a joke. if you are horrible on skis, take a lesson. ive ski'd the last 4 days on it and these conditions are outstanding. much better than peak season last year. find something legitimate to complain about. and ps... anywhere you go during the holiday timeframe will have crowds unless its raining or barely anything is open. get used to it or dont go skiing and adding to the crowds. smh at all you complainers.