Oh my gosh, I couldn't agree more! don't bring your new equipment to ski here because it will get ruined! There is no snow and 2 trails really opened when you disclude the beginner slopes. I guess they want to make the beginners happy because they don't know the difference. I also agree about the staff. They hold up the lift lines acting like no one really paid and vigorously kept checking season passes. Every year one of my kids is held out of line because of that jerk Wayne! They need to get rid of half the staff and take some customer service classes! I know of about 10 people who won't come to Camelback because of how they were treated. I've read Camelback's message board, and they don't care about losing customers. Maybe they would when no one goes there.