Camelback is not as nice as other mountains in Penn. I am starting to hate the ice on the trails especialy King Tut and Pharoh. The blacks there do not deserve to be blacks. There really is only one trail that is a normal black which varys because they change the blacks on the top and the ones that have moguls. The moguls are normally a block of ice each. Do not allow them to fool you most of camelback is packed powder(ice).