I was amazed at the quality of this place. I had not been there for a long time when it was Doe mountain. The lodge is beautiful, large and upscale with a good restaurant that takes reservations. The mountain on a Saturday was not crowded until noon. I skied 3 hours and never waited more than a minute for the lift. The lifts do take 5 minutes to get up the hill and good skiers will get down in a minute or two. The snow for the first two hours was excellent. Obviously not challenging (except two very short steeper icy black (really blue) runs right off of the lift) but for a few hours with your kids it is very enjoyable. They have enough variety for about 3-4 hours of skiing and will sell you a 4 hour ticket. Plus, from Philadelphia in the early morning it is only an hour and 15 minute drive. I would go back to just get on the snow before going elsewhere for some real skiing.