Sunday was rough, but thats Jay. the Flyer and Tram are susceptible to wind holds. I really just think a lot of you dont 'get' Jay. they have the lowest ticket price of any major VT mountain for a reason. They dont have services and amenities on par with the Okemo, kill, stowe mts, nor do they have as many cats or snowguns. what they have is better terrain with more natural snow than any of those mountains. its all about the weather, which in the ne kingdom is very variable. conditions at Okemo were terrible on Sunday whereas Jay had 6-8 in of fresh and packed powder that no one could ski after noon due to the holds. its a risk reward mountain.