Northstar continues to be an enjoyable resort with wonderful ski runs for cruising. But, it is experiencing growing pains which I hope will be addressed in the future.
We stayed at the new village at the base of the resort which made it extremely convenient with underground parking and easy walking distance to the gondala. In fact, we stayed at the western end of the village where you can see the gondala as soon as you step out the door. Very convenient! I feel sorry for the skiers not staying at the village however. They are short-changed with inconvenient day parking. I hope Northstar has plans to provide better parking or improve the shuttle service. (I prefer the later, i.e. a resort that emphasizes the pedestrian environment over cars, which is done nicely here.)
Northstar is attempting to turn itself into a high-end overnight resort, which is both good and bad. I miss the low-key family feel from years past, but appreciate the desire to create an distinctive village centered around a vibrant "village square" (represented by the popular skating rink). The village is still taking shape with many vacant storefronts, but a good assortment of shops and restaurants are starting to emerge. They need to fill up the other storefronts to create a stronger retail mix and better apres ski environment. It still has a ways to go, but seems to be getting there.
I agree with some commenters that the recent emphasis seems to be on real estate development with the high-end condos and homes and future high-end hotels. They should make sure that the ski slopes remain their top priority, however, as isn't that why skiers might want to stay at Northstar? I was there this past weekend and I have to agree that the grooming seems to have taken a back seat to the resort. The backside was icy and could have benefited from better grooming. The good news is that the crowds were manageable with minimal waits.
Northstar is targeting the high-end market, but because the slopes are primarily intermediate, they have converted many runs to terrains parks to attract teenage snowboarders. So one wonders if Nothstar is marketing to upper-crust families with their bratty teenage kids. Quite frankly, not the most appealing combination. But, to be fair, Northstar have a good mix of skiers with many families. And you can't beat the convenience of the skating rink for kids with boundless energy, while parents can watch rinkside with drinks in toll by the outdoor fireplaces.
All in all, I would keep my scorecard open on the resort, but it is definitely a "thumbs up" recomendation if you can afford to stay at the village, even if it means a spurge ski trip.
Northstar is one of the best ski resorts in Tahoe. The backside has plenty of challenging blacks, while the frontside is well-protected from the wind. While other resorts might be on wind-hold, Northstar will continue to run during bad weather.
The resort recently has gone through some good renovations that really improved the food experience, and also the crowd control (including a new high speed chair Zephir). The new skating ring is nice and make for a nice drinking spot after a good day of riding.
Anonymous - March 13th, 2008
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Northstar. $74 dollars for a lift ticket and no parking. That pretty much sums it up. Northstar has always had a parking problem. The solution? Eliminate parking lots and replace them with condos.
Now, if you are an affluent "skier" who cares more for shops, restaurants, and luxury accomodations than the actual sport itself, then Northstar may be for you. They have an ice-skating rink, fake natural gas fireplaces, baby sitting service (aka ski school), outdoor bars, etc.
However, if you are attuned to the soul of skiing/riding and annoyed at the attitudes of the narcissistic Bogner attired rich folk then consider a real Tahoe ski resort such as Mt. Rose, Sugarbowl, Alpine Meadows, Kirkwood, Bear Valley, or perhaps Homewood.
Somewhere behind the condos and stupid "village" are ski slopes. (The slopes can be seen from the highway.) But don't expect to park, board the lift, ski, eat a brown bag lunch, and have a good time on a budget at Northstar. Northstar exists to attract those of means and separate them from as much of their money in as short an amount of time as possible. Thank you, Booth Creek Corporate Management.
Northstar (Flatstar) represents another former ski resort turned into a real estate development. Fat wallets welcome, persons who wish to ski and enjoy themselves on a budget - Stay Away.
And let's not even get started on crowds.........
Anonymous - February 21st, 2008
1 of 1 people found this Resort Review helpful.
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My family hasn't skied at Northstar in two years because our last experience there was so frustrating--all the schlepping through the still-being-constructed Village just to get to mid-mountain. We agreed to give Northstar another try this past weekend because some friends we were with wanted to ski there, and we had an EVEN WORSE time than before getting through the Village to mid-mountain. I thought Northstar was spending tons of money to improve things, not to make them worse. The equipment rental process was confusing and chaotic; apparently standing in line doesn't mean you get served before the people behind you. The rental skis issued to my 6-y.o were obviously WAY too short, more suitable for a 2-year old, but the Northstar guy who handed them to us seemed more interested in getting us processed and out of the way rather than assuring that we had the right equipment. When I asked him to exchange them for longer skis, he pointed us to another line in which we had to wait. And when the guy handed me our third set of rented skis and I didn't have a free hand to hold them (they hand the skis to you while you're standing in line; you don't check them out at a counter), he was at a total loss what to do next. Then when I wanted to store things in a day locker, some Northstar person told us that there were lockers at mid-mountain, but he couldn't assure us that they were still available, meaning that we'd have to ride the gondola back down the mountain to find additional lockers near the ice rink in the Village. I ended up walking a far distance in my ski boots over what seemed like cobblestones (I just assume they were cobblestones but don't really know for sure; I was too blind with frustration at that point to notice) from the equiment rental to the ice rink just to find a free locker--WHICH COST $5! What happened to the 75-cent coin-op lockers? At that point I was just glad that I parked way far away by the gas station because having to pay $30 for parking would have put me over the top. We finally got to mid-mountain two hours after our arrival. The mountain is decent enough, but not of the caliber for a place that aspires to be a world-class destination. And what happened to Northstar's reputation of being a family-friendly place? Maybe for families that have surly teenagers and young adults who like to snowboard. When there's a sign posted at the Vista chair line asking people to "refrain from smoking or swearing in line", it makes you wonder. We've never experienced any such problems at any of the other downhill ski places in the N. Lake Tahoe area where a sign is even necessary. At the end of the day, as we were returning our equipment, I couldn't believe it when a Northstar employee asked us to fill out a comment card, and I looked at her like, "You REALLY want to hear what I think of this place?" What a ripoff. Forget apres-ski. I was so ready to get out of there when we were done. What was most frustrating about our experience is that Northstar is capable of being a great place, but it obviously cares very little for the day visitor or families with young kids. Northstar epitomizes that old saying, "No one goes there anymore--it's too crowded."
Anonymous - February 21st, 2008
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4 of 5
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Northstar is a resort winter wonderland. Compared to most places in Tahoe it has a lot of focus on its village-which is beautiful-and establishing a high end feel. As for skiing it has a fair variety of terrain an 8600 foot summit, and excellent wind protection. On windier stormier days this season you can expect guss to be 20 or 30 mph slower than Sugar Bowl and Boreal which shield the mountain from wind and unfortunately some snowfall as well.
None of Northstar's terrain is truly expert but can be extremely fun for a creative rider nonetheless. Early morning get a couple warm ups off of Vista where it is sun exposed early and the groomers are wide and fast. On a powder day the connection to lookout generally opens at 9 and provides spectacular views and some long pow runs. They generally groom Martis and Prosser if you want something mellower to check it out. Off the east and west ridges there are several runs that start with short steeps followed by rolling terrain with lots of hits, rolling grade changes and gladed areas to cut through. The backside offers some long runs. When it hasn't been snowing stay towards the left side (facing down the mountain) as it gets more sun and tends to have less ice when those are the conditions. Otherwise the right side can be a blast too. It is a popular mountain so if you can manage it go for a weekday. There will be virtually no waits and the people are a lot more courteous with there trail etiquette. I can see that most posters here are weekend warriors who complain about everything and make everybody's time less enjoyable.
When its packed on the weekend. Rendevous opens up which takes you centrally to the East Ridge. There is a ton of fun stuff over there especially in the gladed areas right after it has dumped. Rendevous almost never has a line and its a slower and shorter lift. The runs will be shorter but I have done 10 runs in an afternoon with no wait on a pakced Saturday before. Creativity will be your best friend on a day like that. Again leave your crappy attitude at home and come ready to shred.
To avoid ice use common sense and stick to runs that get more sun. This hasn't been an icy season but it happens even to the best mountains. If it is icy stay away fromthe furthest east side of the mountain. You'll have a lot more fun.
Everybody complains about the parking. Count on taking a shuttle. Its not that big a deal and it drops ytou off at the entrance to the village. Its a short (1/4 mile max) walk to the gondola through the beautiful village which provides for a nice leisurely way to warm up the muscles before you shred. Seriously people skiing/boarding is a high exertion activity. A little walk is not a big deal. Stop crying already.
For a more expert mountain, go to Kirkwood or Squaw. Howver after a big dump Hwy 88 is the first to close down so Kirkwood can be tough to get to. Squaw is then your best choice for more expert terrain and it is off of 80 which rarely shuts down. But for cruising family fun Northstar is a great choice especially if you're a fair weather skier because it doesn't get hit as hard. However for the same reason it is very popular. Expect long lift lines on weekends. But if you're willing to brave the crowds and look for the little stretch of mountain to call your own, it can be done quite easily. Just quit your crying and do what you went there to do. That is get some turns on their excellent extensive system of groomed trails or bomb their beautiful gladed areas for some adventure.
Happy Shredding!
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Anonymous - February 20th, 2008
1 of 1 people found this Resort Review helpful.
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This is our first visit to Northstar during the President holidays. Our experience at Northstar was great. We have designated parking area so we did not have to struggle for parking. The evening ice skating rink (and live band) was great! There were many restaurants in the village so we just walked to restaurants for food. The people who worked there were very friendly and helpful (although some of the visitors were rude and mean). Our kids took snowboard lessons and the instructor (Keaton) was very friendly, easy going and good with kids. In short, it is true that parking is a nightmare if you don't have stay in the resort. However, if you stay at the resort, parking is a snap and it's a wonderful place with everything at your fingertip.
Anonymous - February 11th, 2008
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I made a visit to Northstar, Jan 3rd, shocked by the parking fee $30, year before $20. I have never paid a parking fee to ski and have been skiing for 20 years, only at Northstar. I have small children and they complain the whole way to the lift and back to the car. Mt. Rose was much cheaper and chose to ski at Northstar due to windy conditions at Mt. Rose. I noticed there was chaos in the lift line on the Vista chair, people continuously cutting, 4 lanes merge to 1...what's with that. Northstar is never my first choice, it's the last when there are windy conditions at the other resorts.
Anonymous - February 10th, 2008
0 of 1 people found this Resort Review helpful.
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My advice to anyone going to Northstar is to LOCK UP YOUR SKIS and poles, especially if they are a good pair. I had a good pair of Dynastar skis "switched" along with a good pair of graphite poles. The skis were the same model, color and size as mine, with the exception of the binding. Surprisingly, the bindings if the skis switched with mine fit my boots. I posted the "switch" on Craigslist hoping to get a response. I did not. Lo and behold, others have posted the same thing on Craigslist. Switched skis, very similar if not the same, and the bindings fit the boots of the person who had the switch made on them. I got the same story from Northstar's security that others have: "it happens all the time". I ski other resorts at Tahoe, and never hear of this happening “all the time”--only at Northstar. Their security office needs to take these reports more seriously. Another option is to just stop skiing there or lock your equipment up. I sure will if I go again.
Anonymous - February 3rd, 2008
1 of 1 people found this Resort Review helpful.
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4 of 5
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It has been a great year for snow in Tahoe and coming from the east coast- it is hard to say anything bad re: the snow and trails. Nothing compares--- My only complaint about Northstar were the lines. We skiied day 1 at a smaller resort and then on Saturday hit Northstar and the lines were moderate. The skiing was great and the back side of the mountain was beautiful.
The one thing missing is at the top of the mountain was a sub par place to eat for lunch that was way too packed and dirty.
Anonymous - February 1st, 2008
0 of 1 people found this Resort Review helpful.
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Northstar use to be one of my favorite resorts but has been extremely disappointing the last couple of years and I'm considering alternatives from now on. Here are my reasons:
The emphasis has shifted from being a family-oriented ski resort to a pothead snowboarder haven. About 75% of the intermediate ski runs that use to be located off of the Vista ski lift have been fully dedicated to snowboarders with the full gamut of rails, jumps, parks, and pipes. This has killed the experience for average skiers who are left with the overcrowded Comstock and Backside lifts - so overcrowded that they have "Mellow Yellow Slow Zone" signs everywhere because they don't want people going so fast that they run into other skiers/boarders. I think this makes it pretty obvious that there are too many people on the hill. The Comstock and Backside "Express" lift lines are ridiculously long. It's not uncommon to wait 20 minutes in line. It's clear that Northstar needs to invest in some more 6 person high-speed lifts to get people up the mountain. I mean, Rendezvous lift is about as worthless as they come. The backside needs another lift bringing people up to where Zephyr comes up the front side, and they need a 6 person lift bringing people from the middle village up to the peak rather than having both Arrow and Comstock. I'm not saying that Heavenly and Squaw aren't crowded too, but at least they mitigate the issue by putting in the best lifts they can. Lookout Mountain was a nice addition, but unfortunately with the lower elevation there's less snowfall and coverage. It would be nice if the hill was 1000 ft higher in elevation.
Northstar is trying to be something it's not. The hill isn't that big, but this hasn't stopped massive construction projects of condos, stores, and restaurants. I feel like in the last 15 years that I've been skiing there the mountain has grown by about 25% and the development has grown about 200%. Don't you think that they would have tried to correlate the increase in the mountain with the increase in development a little better? The ski-in/ski-out condos located off of the Village run use to be nice as they didn't get in the way of anything, but now, condos located throughout the entire village and up into the old parking lots have become too much.
That brings me to another point: the parking situation is horrendous. Arriving at the resort after 8:30 am on a busy weekend will place you way out by the Gas Station where you have to be bussed in. Being bussed in can be very hard for families with children.
On Northstar ski trail maps, they show where they're going to develop "in the future". What's the time scale on this? Is this in the next 5 years or the next 50 years?