Sorry I just had to post to say the Nov 17th Poster is on crack. After reading the post I was certain it was a PR ad from Vail Inc. The poster lists mostly Vail Inc owned hotels and activities, but then the poster claims that Cascade Chairlift is on expert terrain, so I'm just going to say you're on crack. I live and work in the Town of Vail. Christmas and the Holidays are the worst time to come here. Lack of snow, huge crowds of aristocratic beginners, and most of the service employees are burned out around Christmas so your service quality sucks. Vail owned hotels are not the best options either. Plus we have construction everywhere and 18" inches of man made snow, with one run open. Truly, there is no comparison.