Eight of us went to Loveland January 7th & 8th. Loveland is a skiiers mountain. Who needs all the fluff from the overpriced resorts. I would rather ski Loveland anyday. No lift lines, plenty of fresh powder and challenges for every type of skiier are there. The pre-season 4-pak is the best value in Colorado outside a season pass. You definately get your moneys worth at Loveland.